to try to address the issue that america, the united states has been facing. bottom line is i'm very, very encouraged with the ideas, particularly with the senate proposing that we move forward and that we will get our border. we'll have our border secure. then we can deal with these other issues that have been results from an unsecure border. so i think that we should all be pleased and claim victory. >> well, the optimist in me is thrilled at this remarkable display of bipartisanship from washington's politicians, and we should all celebrate this great moment. the cynic in me says that the reason that so many of the republicans have softened their position including, dare i say it, your good self, is that you realized after the recent election that the latino vote was disappearing from the republicans and may never return. and it was precisely the hard line position over issues like immigration that was to blame. how do you plead to that charge? >> well, you know, i'm not going to plea to any charge. but i will answer. you know, i know that there have been p